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Post by timmy on Nov 10, 2015 4:35:37 GMT
Due to the tension in Syria, many European nations are accepting Syrian refugees to their country. Accepting other cultures to another culture is very dangerous as it can cause great havoc. Even so, I believe that Europeans have to do it if the Syrian people wishes it- not only because of morals, but for the crimes they have committed in the past.
During colonization, European nations committed crimes to other nations that cannot be forgiven. Due to Europe, many countries starved, women were raped by soldiers, economies were crushed, and were left powerless and humiliated. Europe may say that it is all the past and it is the previous generation that caused such affliction. Of course, since the Western powers prefer to forget about the crimes that made them rich. If it wasn't for their control over other nations, they would not be powerful as they are today.
Helping other nations when they are in need is the smallest payment for what they have done, and I think it is fair that Syrians get help. |
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Post by chris9280 on Nov 13, 2015 10:59:38 GMT
A lot of refugees are trying to escape from the war, and trying to settle in Europe. Many European countries have opened their door for the Syrian refugees. However, few days ago, German government declare that they will reuncoolign the refugee population coming into the German soil. Yes, the European countries may owe third world countries for the wrong doings in the past. And yes, they should try any possible way to repay the things they have done. But same time, I think people of Syria should be left alone. Other countries should not involve and tell them what to do. And for the refugee problems, as long as people from other countries (refugees) do not threaten the governmental and economical situation of the countries in Europe, European countries should find the way to help refugees. Just out of curiosity, if refugees from Southeastern Asia countries come knocking on our door, so many people that might cause an economic chaos, do you think we should accept everyone of them? Regardless of their background? I think that’s something we should think about?
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Post by Tharu on Nov 14, 2015 3:12:33 GMT
One of the main reason that Europe is not accepting the Syrians, is because of the religion problems. They are aware that in the future that Europe will be a islam region. As we watched those videos in homeroom, they said that muslims' reproduction rate is higher than others so the number of muslims will increase. In my opinion i don't agree with this, because in this type of a situation the whole world should work as one, they are all humans no matter of their religion or race or culture. I am not a muslim and i believe that Syrians should get accepted to the Europe, and the main problem that i have is that why don't Europians think like me? Everybody should have equal rights, and when somebody is in danger, we should help them.
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Post by jonah21 on Nov 14, 2015 6:10:21 GMT
I believe that a lot of European countries are not accepting Syrians because of their own selfishness. For example, Germany had held protests on the acceptance of Syrian refugees, saying that they don't belong there. It's possible that these people don't want to pay higher taxes to support these refugees in their camps. It feels as though our own greediness with money dictates our lives. European countries should help these Syrians seeking safety from the tension in their own country. They should think about the outside world and not just about their own lives in their country.
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Post by maysamyounis on Nov 14, 2015 10:50:02 GMT
I AGREE with you dome of you and also I disagree some of You!! some of European countries rights now they due as humanity things and they help them because they need help thousands of people in streets because of humility i believed some of Europe countries they help refugees not just Syria even in Africa and another parts of world they cam e to Europe counties but than Europe countries the are real riches countries they are just providing safety for people also that's right s they will effect culture of Europe even islam our another areas in world but if you guys real have before read our have another idea s the larger numbers of Muslims They live in Europe religion before Syria Crisis, so if there is no war in Syria they will not go to another , but there people they working under under?.
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Post by graceyichen on Nov 15, 2015 10:12:54 GMT
Things happen without explanation as to where or when they will happen, I do not think events in history can be blamed on a single reason, person or country because we were not there to experience it ourselves. I don't think now is the time to dig up the past and treat the refugee crisis as a ticket to "redemption". The past can't be blamed on the present, it's not fair or reasonable at all, how can someone born now be responsible for a war or event that happened centuries ago just because they were born in the same country? I think we often form opinions without first imagining the situation of those we are against. If European nations help refugees, great, they are looking after people of different countries simply as brothers and sisters who need help. I don't think their help should be taken for granted, like "a payment", because they are not obligated to offer anything, they do it out of their conscience.
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Post by Jonathan on Nov 15, 2015 10:15:07 GMT
In the public's eyes, I think Tharu's opinion fits the most. The normal people are mostly disagreeing with the Syrian refugees due to the fact that they are Muslims. In the politic view, it's a very sensitive matter to all countries in the world. We can't only blame countries in Europe for not opening up borders for the refugees. Like countries, such as Korea, can help financially or supplying resources to countries that have their borders open. I believe that European countries have closed their borders because of the economic failure that the refugees might bring because the economy isn't that great in Europe right now. Countries that can handle it like Germany are allowing refugees but have the commoners protesting about it.
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Post by christopher on Nov 15, 2015 12:55:27 GMT
Well, there are various reasons on why countries are not accepting refugees. I do agree on the religion part. I think there are some stereotypical ideas around muslims, so Europeans are hesitant to accept them to their countries. I really think that the reason that many countries are hesitating to accept refugees is because of their lack of resources. In every environment, there are limited amount of supplies. Millions of refugees are pouring into European countries. As refugees come into the country, the population occupying that country increases. If the population is bigger than the amount of supplies to sustain a population, then it becomes a problem. I imagine the politicians being stressful as they are trying to find the best solution on keeping their morals, the country's economy, and listening to citizens.
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Post by toufiq on Nov 15, 2015 14:49:10 GMT
I hope this doesn't happen but after the recent paris attack, I feel there gonna be some sort of tension all over the Europe and that can affect this crisis too. It can put the Syrian refugees under hard time. After the attack took place, it's really sad to see how some people blaming the religion but not the people. I feel religion has nothing to do with it. It's just pure belief which is needed sometimes. So we should differentiate between good and bad without involving the religion. I hope everything will be alright and everyone will overcome these crisis.
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Post by sunnyp on Nov 15, 2015 14:59:16 GMT
I also think it is right for Europeans to accept refugees. I can understand why some people would protest against it but they should stop being too selfist and think about some other aspects. Refugees can actually be helpful to their countries. People say refugees are going to take away their jobs but they usually do jobs that no Europeans wants to do and they just provide more work force in their country, and work force is a resource. So refugees after all don't only take resources but add resources. Therefore I think Europeans should consider accepting refugees more.
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Post by riyadh on Nov 19, 2015 22:41:40 GMT
Yes they do for limited number of people because they have low in birth population
So they want to get more 2nd to give a hand for them because they want to help but just for limited time too.
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Post by mohahaha on Nov 22, 2015 8:28:05 GMT
Since Syrian's only way to safety, Europe is kinda being forced of which they have to accept Syrian refugees to have a better living standards, also, correct me if I'm wrong, but according to UNHCR, the Syrian refugees is their only way to which they can seek help to go to Europe, additionally that most of the Middle East is in war, such as in Iraq, making them very vulnerable to go to the neighboring countries, seeking of which to Europe for safety, as it's their most priority.
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Post by anniee on Nov 22, 2015 13:23:28 GMT
Why do you think that the meeting of cultures will end in havoc? This has been a common occurrence in history, but in the global, modern-day world, I think that it is a good experience to share customs and ideas. In the long term, it could lead to an interesting mix of traditions, instead of uncoolimilation like when the European settlers first arrived in the American continent. Korea used to be an extremely homogeneous-based society - now, even if a number of people still are xenophobic and want all foreigners to leave, some have accepted the western ways of non-Korean culture. There are areas where foreigners are abundant (ex. Itaewon), the interest in celebrating Halloween is increasing among Koreans, interracial marriages are becoming common, English has become mandatory in schools alongside hanja - this all happened because Koreans decided to let foreigners gradually enter the Korean community.
Also, I think that Europeans should accept Syrian refugees because they want to help this group of people, not to serve as atonement for whatever they executed during colonization attempts. The past should not determine the present; the present should determine the future. The deeds of the past shouldn't be a reason for acting nice, for I think that's the same as saying, "Oh, I'll be nice to you now so that we're even for me making you miserable last time". Why can't the crimes of European nations be forgiven? If they fixed those mistakes, what they did before can be forgiven - it should merely serve the purpose of being remembered, not for blackmailing another to get what we need when the time comes. Therefore, it is not forgotten, but it is not used to determine the choices of today. Using the past to attain what I need today merely continues a cycle of temporary trust, instead of establishing the foundation for a true international friendship.
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Post by susansun18 on Dec 13, 2015 17:55:28 GMT
It would be really nice if Europe accept Syrian refugees but of course this is a hard problem and I do agree with Tharu's idea. We watched the video in homeroom, it mentioned about religion problem, if Europe accept more and more Islam refugee, there will be a culture change or culture conflict in those nations. We all say people are equal and something and I do agree.. but there are some problem just stock in there that we cannot touch, like religion problem. But still, I do believe that survival is more important than religion so.. just hope more European countries will accept more refugees.
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Post by timmy on Dec 14, 2015 14:40:26 GMT
The thing that I was worried about came to reality as Paris was bombed by ISIS. It was not a bad intention to help the Syrian refugees on the reason that they wanted to help- but with the mix of them, it was bound that members of ISIS also come. As a result, Paris received her worst. They were being too idealistically childish in their thinking. A plan set by the government killed many of its original settlers.
I believe a country exists to protect its people, not the people outside. I am not saying that they should not help, but only up to the point where its citizens are very safe. Otherwise, it is betraying the native citizens.
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