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Post by graceyichen on Jan 23, 2016 4:07:31 GMT
I don't know how old Hamlet is, but it feels like he is only a couple years older than us. Which makes me think, what would it be like to go through what Hamlet's about to go through at our age.
Honestly, this might sound like I don't have empathy for people who's lives are "harder". Which can be true because I haven't gone through anything anyone has in their lives, I only have the experience of my life. So this is probably going to come off as selfish. But sometimes, I feel like if more happened in my life, it would be easier to live. Like dramatic events. Then I could have one thing I'm motivated to do, like maybe take revenge for something, or win a battle, and I would only have to achieve that one thing to feel content with my purpose in life. I mean I know everything is hard, I'm not saying dramatic events would be easy to deal with, it's just, my life wouldn't have so many possibilities, at least I would have something to do.
I don't think the level of "how hard life is" can be compared between anyone because no one can ever truly know how another person feels. Like, comparing a refugee and a person battling mental disorder. People might think, the life of a refugee is way harder because they face physical threats and survival related situations every day. But who can say living with a mental disorder isn't hard. Everybody's life is hard. Who is to say that the stress that a high schooler deals with every day isn't "harder to live with" than someone who lost a family member.
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Post by Emily on Jan 23, 2016 15:37:10 GMT
I don't think that you come off being apathetic; actually, I think you sound like you just want a bit of adventure in your life. There are many stories where people from great backgrounds and riches leave all of their fame and fortune behind to truly be able to live the world as it is. But I was surprised you said it would be easier to live with more dramatic events in life. I think this would be the opposite, because if you have more troubles in life then you would have to go through more obstacles to reach that goal. For example, if we compare a poor person from the countryside to a very rich person in the city who could do anything he/she wanted with his/her money. The poorer person would have a harder time reaching the goal (lets say a good job) than the rich person who could afford education and had connections, but I would agree with your that the poorer person would have more to live for and more satisfaction in completing that goal.
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Post by jin794 on Jan 24, 2016 4:36:48 GMT
It was interesting how you said you want more things to happen in your life such as experiencing dramatic events. It may be true that if more things happened in life, it would give such motivation to live. On the other hand, people might lose their motivation due to such events during their lifetime. For example, Hamlet went through dramatic events in a bad way. It is true that he is planning for his father's revenge. But, this is only for Hamlet's perspective. Some people might not go for revenge. The person might lose its purpose of life due to such depression and anger that person's father had been killed by its relative. I think it depends on people's value and belief.
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Post by susansun18 on Jan 24, 2016 7:55:38 GMT
It's true that it is hard for anybody that truly emphasize someone who experienced things we've never experienced but we can imagine how I will feel if we were that person but it's true that only the ones who experienced the similar situations know the feelings well. You seems you want to emphasize people better and that's why you want to have more dramatic experiences.. but isn't that why people read books and social media? Because our experiences are limited in our lives and we all have different experience, so people share experience, ideas and things in books and social media that make people emphasize? I don't know but If I were you, I would not wish to have dramatic events to happen in my life, that would be so scary hehe. But I do think that experiences is beneficial.
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Post by heesu on Jan 24, 2016 9:26:30 GMT
I have same though with you. I wish something happens more in my life. I like to live in more dramatic life. I don't want something bad things to happen, but I want to leave in a good situation. I don't like to live in motivation because when we reach the goal, then there is no more goal or motivation to live on. I just want to live in my situation and just feel happy with what I have it. I just wish that something more good things to happen in my life. I will be really happy when I reach the goal, but I might be feel little pointless and just try hard in that situation.
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Post by riyadh on Jan 24, 2016 9:56:34 GMT
how it feels like to Living the life of another. it might feels good because you will be doing and using and learning and meeting something new and it is not yours so it will not feels so well .. but some people do hope that to happened because they do not have things in their life so they just want to change their life . even if that will be living the life of another, but it will not feels like your own life because everyone have his own gols and thinking and life style so it will seems not right ,,
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Post by mohahaha on Jan 24, 2016 10:34:05 GMT
It is true of what you said that through events, it gains you motivation to which you'll be thankful of what happen. But through dramatic events can effect your life to be static (away from society, major depression, etc.), or it can make you to go and live to tell the tale and learn from the experiences, in which making Life the best teacher, but the toughest to go through these experiences, and also the most rewarding.
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Post by Jessica (Yeeun) Kim on Jan 24, 2016 11:00:09 GMT
I have a similar opinion with Grace. One thing that everyone are sure about is that everyone live hard and life is always full of hardships. In fact, no one can fully understand other's hardships because everyone have a different level of hardness of life and different level of how people can actually overcome.
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Post by ETypeRegymon on Jan 24, 2016 13:10:33 GMT
I kind of agree about wanting to have dramatic events happening in my life. I always imagine how it would feel like to be stranded on an island because I don't think I'm doing anything by myself in real life. There's always someone helping. If life is the greatest teacher, then I want to learn from life itself. Then again, I'd probably be dead if I had to fend for myself alone, so I should appreciate what I have.
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Post by kevv on Jan 24, 2016 14:59:00 GMT
This is such an awesome thing to talk about..ah anyway, we all know that people have different life patterns and stuff which we can't actually judge about. People hide alot of stuff that they don't want other people don't want to know because they know that people will begin judging them. Anyways, I don't think there is a certain level to living a hard life or why people set a level to hard life but one thing I know is that people themselves know what their strengths are and how good they are at things so nobody is technically allowed to judge whether if they are living a hard life or lazy life cuz on the inside, they might be stressing out and doing their best than anyone is.
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Post by anniee on Jan 24, 2016 14:59:29 GMT
Grace, I don't believe that this is a matter of you not having empathy, but rather of personal experience. People - I have to admit that I am one of these individuals sometimes - continuously tell us to have empathy, to put yourself in others' shoes to understand what they're going through, but sometimes, this can be hard. Growing up in some of the more privileged households (I think we're all privileged to be able to attend such an expensive international school), our life's most difficult predicaments are most likely friend drama or school trouble. We've never had to scavenge for food or escape a war. We've never had to beg for our lives or sell ourselves for a day's meal. However, that doesn't mean that those experiences weren't difficult for us. These problems may seem trivial to others, but it was hard for us who actually went through these times. Others don't know the extent of the physical or emotional trauma we encountered, dismissing our distress as mere teenager drama. They don't bother to think that maybe we were affected and scarred from these memories. Thus, I don't think you always have to completely understand the hardships of others, because sometimes, we just can't. As long as we attempt to recognize what's happening and help them in any little way that we can, we can achieve the "empathy" that we are told to strive for.
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Post by mayurika98 on Jan 25, 2016 2:57:12 GMT
I agree with you that we cannot judge someone for feel empathy for someone until we have actually gone through the same experiences. Similarly, it is hard to form an opinion on someone with out getting to know them well. Personally, I really don't like picking sides and forming opinions. Maybe this is because I am still young and don't understand the real struggles of life. I feel like high school is just a preview of the stress we are going to have to deal with later on.
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Post by timmy on Jan 29, 2016 5:22:50 GMT
Though I have lived only a short life, I feel that the fact that nothing happens to you is the greatest fortune that you can hope for. Of course, it would be better if your life was exciting in a good way. But more likely, with exciting life comes risks.
Because I've had few turmoils in my lives that I do not want to speak of, I long for stability in my life.
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Post by jungseunghoon16 on Jan 29, 2016 11:33:37 GMT
Sometimes I wonder if that is the right thing to expect from this life we have. As you mentioned Grace, we all have so many possibilities of achieving success, experiencing new things, going through conflicts and solving them. I sometimes do think that I also need more dramatic events like Hamlet is going through to have one thing to pursue. On the other hand, let's say that we have something to achieve just like Hamlet; revenge is something that we feel subjective to but when we achieve the revenge you want like Hamlet, what's next? I think if we have too much conflicts and drama in our life, it would turn around and hurt us instead, messing with our minds, thinking that you have achieved the goal in our lives and give up on everything else. I think having many possibilities of anything is great, we have so many options that we try out everything until we find the one we feel comfortable with and at the same time, succeed in. Most of the goal in our lives are to get accepted in a prestige university, get good education and make a lot of money in the future. I think that is the most common factor that we can find amongst ourselves as students. But through the process of achieving that goal, we experience different routes of achieving that goal. I think that is the most important aspect of life.
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Post by sangjoon on Jan 31, 2016 6:06:05 GMT
It is very interesting that you want the more life challenges although you already experiencing a lot. It could be true that the life might be more fun and dynamic when you face lots of dramatic happens. However, it could also ruin your life when you experienced too much. I don't believe that experience is always the good thing because it is possible to get a trauma when you experience something bad and this will hurt your life. Anyways, l like your ideas and puncoolion!
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