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Post by jonah21 on Jan 30, 2016 10:17:23 GMT
One thing I want to note is, Claudius actually admits in the story that he feels guilty about his actions. Do you think he may one day just get up and admit his actions? I personally don't think he would. To me, Claudius just seems to want everything for himself. He didn't really seem to focus much on the Kingdom. Anything he says, to me, sounds like he wants people to think he's innocent, that he didn't kill anyone.
Can the Kingdom of Denmark really stay stable? It may be obvious that it won't since word would spread around. We even saw in the video summary how everyone dies at the end. But what if that never happened? What if Hamlet didn't believe the ghost telling him to get revenge? Could the Kingdom still stay the same?
I feel someday, someone will attack it.
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Post by anniee on Jan 31, 2016 4:11:23 GMT
Beyond Confession, I don't think Claudius would ever admit his actions publicly. If he actually felt guilty about killing his brother, he wouldn't have done the deed in the first place. Murdering your own kin isn't a spontaneous act of anger; Claudius probably went through meticulous planning to not get caught for King Hamlet's murder, so why would he suddenly have a soft spot now? Also, he only confessed after the play with Hamlet's extra written scene. He probably thought that the scene was God acknowledging his sin of murdering Claudius, and so he confessed because he was scared. Claudius does not have regret for killing Hamlet, and I believe he never will.
Unless King Claudius is a bad leader, It think it would have been possible for the Kingdom of Denmark to stay stable. Growing up in a royal family and watching his brother's leadership, Claudius would have known the workings of leading a country. The people accepted Claudius (I'm guessing because the only discontent we knew about was from Hamlet) and he was able to prevent Fortinbras from trying to take back war lands. Claudius would have been able to keep Denmark alive, but Hamlet's plan for revenge ruined that.
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Post by erickim on Jan 31, 2016 5:32:45 GMT
I don't think a man who married a woman after two days of husband's death will admit his actions in any way. I mean seriously, If we really did felt guilty about killing his own brother, why would he even kill him in the first place?? In my opinion, he's just trying to make him look innocent and get a free sin puncool from the heaven.. Kingdom of Denmark can not be stable since Claudius is in charge who is both greedy and arrogant.
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Post by Jooyoung on Jan 31, 2016 5:38:50 GMT
As Annie said, I don't think Claudius would admit that he murdered the previous king. He is a very pretentious person who acts all noble and kind outside but is ambitious and greedy inside. There is a part in Hamlet where Claudius says Ophelia putting on makeup is just like him using nice words to cover his true intention. As for the second question, I also agree with Annie. If all this revenge drama did not happen, Claudius, with his keen and sly brain, would have thought of a plan to counter Norwegian raid.
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Post by jin794 on Jan 31, 2016 8:14:37 GMT
In my opinion, I do not think Claudius would admit the fact that he murdered Hamlet's father. He is already concerned with Hamlet's behavior and inability to recover from his father's death. In Act 2 scene 2, Claudius is indifferent to powerful enemy but more worried about Hamlet madness. Claudius seems like a person who is concerned about threats from within his state. Also, Act 1 Scene 4, Marcellus states that "something is rotten in the state of Denmark." It foreshadows that Denmark is unstable. Moreover, it symbolizes ill health of Denmark and Claudius' corruption.
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Post by lucia on Jan 31, 2016 8:23:10 GMT
I agree with all of you! From what I've read, I don't think Claudius is the type of person who would admit his mistakes. Also, he seems like a very sneaky and deceitful person as he agrees to Polonius's plan for spying on Hamlet. Most of the character in general are unscrupulous and untrustworthy and the king is the same. The kingdom under a person who is so prideful and self-centered and just wants a big name, will not stay stable.
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Post by andrewcho77 on Jan 31, 2016 8:48:55 GMT
Yeah, guys! I agree with you guys. I believe that Claudius is a bad guy because he does not trust anyone and sent spies to other people. Claudius will never admit his sins because then why would he murder someone in the first place. Often murderers do not admit their sins and they try to find a loophole to escape. In the cliff notes video, he tries to kill hamlet and Claudius will never be ashamed for his actions. He will also make Denmark corrupted because his actions will come to an end when God will punish him for his actions.
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Post by Tharu on Jan 31, 2016 10:02:26 GMT
As you said, Claudius regrets his work. But in the other hand, he did all of this stuff for the sake of himself. I think he wouldn't confess to the people, but will to Jesus. Maybe he meant them maybe he didn't. We dont know what shakespeare wanted the reader to know. But it is true that he regrets his work and he feels guilty about them.
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Post by maysamyounis on Jan 31, 2016 11:22:32 GMT
Yeah, I agree claudius he is bad guy, because I don't think Claudius is the type of person who would admit his mistakes.and he will do more bad things because he know that Halmat look for kill his father and always hamlet in stroy he accuse his uncle , that have something did not said Hamlet. Claudius would have been able to keep Denmark alive, but Hamlet's plan for revenge ruined that.
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Post by toomuchchanmin on Jan 31, 2016 11:49:13 GMT
I feel unless you're a psychopath, you will feel some level of guilt if you murdered someone. Claudius probably killed his bother either for his own greediness or he thought he would be a better ruler. Either case, anyone in that situation after killing someone (especially a family member) will feel some sort of guiltiness naturally. However no matter how guilty he is he won't go around admitting that he did something wrong, because it will ruin his reputation. So I believe if Hamlet wasn't on a murderous revenge rampage, Claudius would have never admitted his doings.
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Post by christopher on Jan 31, 2016 12:01:01 GMT
If Claudius admit his wrong deeds, then he is essential giving up the thrown. His confession to the public would cause an uproar and the kingdom will become unstable. Claudius committed a crime because he wants the throne and he planned it thoughtfully. Through the play, Claudius thought it was God's sign that Claudius should confess for his sin. He indeed confesses later, but that it is possible that he didn't truly confess to God. However, Claudius would have made Denmark stable because the people accepted him. Like the others said, Hamlet's revenge ruined everything and eventually lead to the downfall of Denmark.
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Post by mohahaha on Jan 31, 2016 12:05:00 GMT
I don't think anytime in the story, or at all that Claudius will ever admit that he poisoned his brother. Just because he will lose everything if he admits his action to everyone, to which he'll cause his own country against him, risking his life, and his country of vulnerability from the enemy, and down hill from there. While if he keeps it as a secret, then life will be normal, although he'll be haunted of his actions to kill his brother is a very very rough move.
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Post by Emily on Jan 31, 2016 12:34:03 GMT
I don't think Claudius would ever admit to his actions because murdering a person, especially the king of Denmark would be a huge crime. Most likely he would immediately be jailed or even executed, and Gertrude would probably also be because she was in on the heist. But we do know that he feels guilty for his crime, and later he goes to the altar and confesses to repent his sins. However, he may have just repented so that he would avoid going to Hell and go to Heaven instead, so I think that overall Claudius is a bad person.
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Post by heesu on Jan 31, 2016 14:14:04 GMT
I think Claudius will not admit his murder because he don't feel any guilty now. If he felt the guilt inside of him, he should feel sorry to Hamlet and give King spot to him. I think he just married Hamlet's mom for the power and he killed his brother to take over his social status. It was interesting people still wants powerful social status until now. It was good connection with now and back in Shaspears's time.
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