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Post by heesu on Apr 17, 2016 7:37:53 GMT
I think it depends on. This days, there are lots of dramas that shows trials and lawyers. The media is keep changing the view of court and laws. This days many people feel the laws are not fair to everyone. I think some lawyers defend for innocent people and follow for the truth. As you guys said many lawrs only fights for their power and money. That power and money hides the truth and avoid laws. I wish...the court is for justice and laws.
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Post by timmy on Apr 17, 2016 9:54:04 GMT
It is an extremely unfair practice, just as everything else in this screwed up world. The reason is that the judge is only a human, being partial to a lawyer to can speak better and more knowledgeable. But then, it is the only way to give judgment for a right versus wrong. Also, it is a way to make people afraid of doing something wrong, thus preventing more widespread of crimes in today's dangerous world. That's why I support it, though somewhat unfair.
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Post by juliaj on Apr 17, 2016 10:08:34 GMT
Trials are ideally the process that will lead to a result of justice, but that doesn't always happen. In the end, a lot of people who were guilty get to go off free because they're wealthy or well connected. However, to not have a trial would not help at all because people who are innocent wouldn't be given the chance to defend themselves against false accusations. Like trials do their bests to find an unbiased jury but lawyers try to pick jury members who would sway in their favour, though it's an effort to be fair, there's things that could corrupt it.
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Post by Tharu on Apr 17, 2016 10:20:06 GMT
I don't agree with Jessica, I think it would be better to say that good lawyers know how to win the trial with any given amount of evidence. The stereotype is that lawyers always lie. No they don't, they just try to their best to their client, they try their best to win the trial because that is what they get paid for. So I don't agree that, to win a trial you need to lie or good lawyers lie to win the trial, it is just how they use their evidence towards their goal. Lawyers are smart enough to use the given evidence to use for their sake and that is not lying.
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Post by christopher on Apr 17, 2016 13:02:44 GMT
Lawyers do whatever they can to win the court. Manipulating, telling truth, telling lies, etc. Yet it depends on each lawyer. Some lawyers would do their best to win the court because of the money that they get. Other lawyers would do their best to bring justice. Yet, I think it is sad in the fact that the court seems like a place without justice. It is not right to manipulate evidence and lying. Yet, people still use it to win the court. This is not justice but a round of debate.
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Post by mohahaha on Apr 17, 2016 13:39:32 GMT
The reason why people get so manipulative in courts by lawyers is because how the world works now, lying and injustice is the way to go. It's not about fairness anymore but rather just winning the court to get satisfied, and of course gaining money as it's basically the resemblance of power. Although not all courts go through lies and manipulations, some of them are very strict and wanting the truth to make the community run well.
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Post by lucia on Apr 17, 2016 14:03:29 GMT
I agree that not everything that happens during a trial is right or reasonable and the process can be very complicated and long. Sometimes we make laws to make trials more fair but they often backfire at us. Lawyers can exploit and manipulate laws for them to win the trial. But in the end, it's their job to identify and find loopholes to win the case.
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Post by anniee on Apr 17, 2016 15:45:14 GMT
The purpose of a trial should be to serve justice, but they do end up into the likes of a competition between the lawyers of the plaintiff and defendant. The two sides are in a race to find the evidence that can prove their client innocent and the other guilty, even if it means manipulating some evidence or convincing witnesses to lie. It would be ideal if people involved could stick to the truth and give accurate testimonies, but that isn't the ways of the world.
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Post by graceyichen on Apr 17, 2016 17:07:32 GMT
So does justice exist? Is there anything we can do about the unfairness of court? I know that talking is easy and finding a solution is hard. Sometimes I think this world wouldn't function properly if it were fair.
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Post by sunnyp on Apr 18, 2016 1:07:38 GMT
As a lawyer, I see myself twisting the truth to my own benefit but I don't see myself lying. There is no specific truth written in the script. Who knows what really haooened? So I think we are making things up, therefore we are not lying. Honestly, since what I am saying on the trial is different from what I think really happened, what I am doing is lying but I feel like i have fallen into my own lies. I have lied to myself so it is not a lie to me anymore.
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Post by sangjoon on Apr 23, 2016 8:10:37 GMT
I also agree with kevin's opinion. The basic purpose of trial is to win. It is also important to find the truth and justice but for us, the purpose of trial is winning. All the evidences and all the stuffs for trial is to win the trial indeed. However, Truth should not be hidden because of having ridiculous desire for winning.
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Post by toomuchchanmin on Apr 23, 2016 16:41:57 GMT
Trials are meant to be fair, but life and the world just seems to be not fair usually. These days trials are now like competitions, a competition of money. Who can hire the lawyers with the most money? However you can't deny the truth that the real intention of a trial is for fairness, the prove whether a criminal deserves innocence or justice. It's a harsh truth really. Reality just sucks sometimes.
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