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Post by graceyichen on May 13, 2016 14:52:31 GMT
For homework, you have two options! 1. Look at the "Questions" section on the handout I gave you guys in cluncool and pick one to elaborate upon. Please include the question in the beginning of your response. - What is her home life like?
- How does she expect her new life to be different?
- Do you think this expectation is realistic?
- Why is “dust” mentioned so often?
- How old is Eveline? Is her age significant for any reason?
- How does Eveline feel about her father?
- What type of person was her mother? What happened to her? Does Eveline identify with her mother in any way?
- What type of person is Frank? What does she actually know about him?
- Has Eveline romanticized Frank in any way? Is her father’s objection of him perhaps justified?
- What is Eveline’s duty to her father? What promise did she make to her dying mother?
- What is her duty to herself? Does she really believe she has “a right to happiness”? Why/why not?
- In what ways is Eveline “like a helpless animal”? What is she afraid of?
- Why do you think her eyes give Frank “no sign of love or farewell or recognition”?
- Do you think Eveline made the right decision? Why/why not?
2. Talk about a personal experience of paralysis specifically when you made a major decision in your life, and describe the similarities between your situation and Eveline's, or how this made you understand the literature better.
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Post by graceyichen on May 14, 2016 2:28:27 GMT
What type of person is Frank? What does she actually know about him?
From the story, we don't know much about Frank besides his experience living aboard ships, traveling, and Eveline's description of how different and new it feels when she's with him. I want to elaborate on this question with this line "Frank would save her. He would give her life, perhaps love, too". As Jonathan mentioned in cluncool, Eveline is seeking a new life where love is not a priority. This gives reason to think that she doesn't really know Frank, she's just intrigued by what he could offer her.
There are many situations in life where, we hand over our decision, our freedom to life, over to another person, thinking that they are the key to our happiness and our success. Because we are afraid that we may fail, and we need someone to be there to blame, or fall with us. I have learned that this is an unhealthy relationship for both sides and that really, the quicker we realize the truth that only we will be there for ourselves, the less pain or disappointment we will experience.
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Post by timmy on May 14, 2016 14:23:38 GMT
•Do you think Eveline made the right decision? Why/why not?
In the end, I don't think anyone can say that she made a wrong decision or a right decision. Both staying and going away has its pros and cons, just like all choices. By staying, she will live in the familiarity, but never know what is outside and will perhaps be unhappy. By going, she will experience the unknown, which is scary for all human being. However, she may have a chance to improve her current state of affair.
In Eveline's case, it seems like she had choice. But ultimately, she really didn't. Her paralysis made her stay, which I think is the saddest part of the story. She knew the possibilities outside, and let's face it- she wanted to go. However, she couldn't.
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Post by melody on May 15, 2016 5:49:15 GMT
* In what ways is Eveline “like a helpless animal”? What is she afraid of?
Eveline was like a helpless animal mostly when she became paralyzed. Mostly by the thoughts conflicting with the old consistent idea what the society wants from her and the new progressive ideas that what she thinks is more right and logic to her. She was afraid of the new revolutional ideas which totally blew up her mind when she heard that she can escape from the paralyzed city, Dublin. Also, Eveline was not a woman who were desperate about Frank but she was still stuck in-between the old belief in Dublin which she may to follow a man. Eveline was afraid of the unknown and the giving up of her duty as a woman since it was considered to be the most important thing as a woman.
Eveline wasn't able to choose anything and remained to be paralyzed in a very important moment which was a familiar situation with me. After I finished my sophomore year in Canada, I was planning to move to a boarding school in U.S but I was so scared to leave to another country and when I came to Korea for a summer vacation, I stayed paralyzed. I didn't know what to do and I just wanted to stay the way I am and that's why I moved my school to KKFS! But I don't really regret that I stayed paralyzed because I'm not graduating this May. Sometimes, I want to tell her that staying paralyzed it's okay, you just have to recover yourself and get back on track as fast as you can.
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Post by maysamyounis on May 15, 2016 9:55:43 GMT
Personally, I think Eveline was helpless because she feminist approach they socity stereotype of girl wanting to be swept away by there " prince charming. it just Eveline's realization that she is just switching between stereotypes that causes her self - paralysis at the end. As in the story say" but in her home, in a distand uknown country, it would not be like that - she eveline. people would treat her with respect then. She would not be treated as her mother had been". Eveline'sfear of living as a stereotypical woman puhes her to decide to leave with Frank. And also archetypes are present in Evelin's memories and her actions as well as in other texts effectively giving evidencce of common human memories " Her father used ofthen to hunt them in out of the field with his blackthorn stick.
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Post by Jonathan on May 15, 2016 10:47:16 GMT
How does she expect her new life to be different?
I believe that Eveline just wants to change her whole life. She has been abused by her father physically and mentally. She goes out to work and it gets all taken from her father. She wants a life where she can just enjoy her time living itself. However, I believe that psychologically she is trapped in the box of thinking where she can't escape that situation. Thats' why she ended up not going because she thought her expectations will never be met.
Paralysis is something that I feel everyday. I can't make choices sometimes and one major decision that I had a really hard time was choosing the school I would go to. There were so many complications of what I had to take care of before making one major decision. It took a lot of time and hard thinking to make that decision. It feels like I had to make 30 small decisions to make that 1 major decision.
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Post by ETypeRegymon on May 15, 2016 13:18:45 GMT
Why do you think her eyes give Frank “no sign of love or farewell or recognition”?
I think her fear that her new life would turn out as bad or worse than her old one and Frank turning out to be like her father clouded her mind and prevented her from having any sort of love to him. Considering how much abuse she takes from her father, she won't view him in a positive light. She was projecting her past onto the future, which is also why she died.
I remember one major decision in my life, and that was whether to go with my family overseas when they worked there or stay in Indonesia with the rest of my relatives. Like Eveline, I think that choice would have affected my future majorly, and also like in the story, it was a decision to stick with the old or go with the new. Unlike her however, I don't think I put much thought into it, since I decided to stick with my family and go to a foreign country.
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dilan
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Guys homework sorry for being late write 5 lines peom about your life
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Post by dilan on May 15, 2016 14:24:01 GMT
* What is her home life like?
* I think her home life suppose to be really boring she always had to work. It was like a jail to her but when she had a chance leave that home with her farther, she looks like she doesn't like it. She was tired of her home life. Maybe she realize her home life is better.
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Post by sunnyp on May 17, 2016 10:59:44 GMT
2. I don't know if this is paralysis but I had to decide if I was going to stay in korea or leave, for college. I couldn't make a decision becuase I tend to follow my heart when I make decisions and my heart was keep going back and forth. So I ended up not making a decision for months. Finally my heart knew what it wanted and I decided to leave. Like Eveline I did experience paralysis but unlike her I wasn't scared to move on. And my decision was very different from her because i didn't stay like she did. I think its just personality. I like changes and maybe she's scared of changes.
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Post by jungseunghoon16 on May 22, 2016 7:33:53 GMT
There were moments in my life where I felt paralysed and was stuck on a decision. It was a decision that was very hard to chose what to do. I was shocked. I think paralysis comes from shock of something that happened. For example, personally I enjoyed to ride my bike often, there was a time when I hit a person that ran right across over me. I tried to avoid the inevitable crash that was just about to happen, but failed and hit a man. At that moment, I couldn't move or talk for a few seconds or so because I was so shocked of what had happened. The man was lying down on the ground and so was I, we were both hurt and shocked. I apologised to the man after like 10 seconds after the crash had happened. At that moment, I couldn't think of anything, my mind just went completely blank. I didn't know why it did, and that's where paralysis comes in. I got paralysed in my thoughts initially because of shock. And just like Eveline's paralysed state when she couldn't move or talk when Frank left the dock, she couldn't think of anything because of of the responsibility and the fact that she was still in her situation and Frank was leaving. My experience of paralysis is quite different from what Eveline had experienced because all she could think about was her responsibility and the promise that she had made with her father and mother. However, the fact that we both couldn't do anything, and were paralysed because of shock is one common ground between me and Eveline.
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