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Post by jungseunghoon16 on May 22, 2016 7:18:15 GMT
In Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen, Mr. Collins uncoolumed that Elizabeth was going to accept his proposal because was judging only by the cover, is that real love? Collins went basically went around town asking girls to marry him, if one of them refused his proposal, he moved on to the next, then the next until he succeeded.
How do we express love? and how do we know when we are in love? Collins described his emotional feelings that he felt towards Elizabeth while complimenting her, are the words from Collins describe what love actually is?
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Post by ETypeRegymon on May 22, 2016 12:28:28 GMT
I feel like Collins wasn't really expressing love to her. It was just compliments and begging, not to mention he had ulterior motives for getting married (his patroness told him so). I have no idea what love is supposed to be, and as such, I'm not sure how it's properly expressed. It's supposed to be a "gut feeling" that tells you you're in love, but have fun trying to describe "butterflies in your hearts" logically.
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Post by sunnyp on May 22, 2016 13:38:38 GMT
I thought that was a horrible proposal but I feel like he might have actually loved Elizabeth. Maybe he is really bad at expressing himself. We all express love differently. Some dont know how to express it and some express it in wrong ways. Even some crimes were ways of expressing love, for those criminals. I feel like we know we are in love from everything we've heard about love since we were young. Since we were babies we heard love songs and read love poems. Then when we feel like, we realize that this was what they were talking about. I think that's how we know.
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Post by melody on May 22, 2016 14:19:45 GMT
I thought the same as Sunny!! Even though the society valued the ideal type of women to be innocent, obedient and sacraficing, I still think he just loved Elizabeth and didn't know how to express it very well. I just thought he couldn't admit that she didn't love him back because he loved her so much. I thought he was just calming himself down that it's going to be alright. However, I still saw many scenes (moments) that were very patriarchal of how men treated women and what the society thought of women. We express our love in many different ways. Sometimes it can be sweet, sometimes it can be cheesy and sometimes it can be greasy or creepy. We all figure that somebody's in love because it's really hard to hide that butterfly in your stomach.
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Post by toomuchchanmin on May 22, 2016 18:16:36 GMT
I disagree with Sunny. I think Mr. Collins loved Elizabeth the same way a man at a strip bar loves his stripper in front of him. For the strip bar example, the man only loves the woman in front of her because of her body, and to get self satisfaction. Collins similarly loved Elizabeth (maybe for her body/beauty too) because he wanted to satisfy himself only. He didn't care what Lizzy cared about.
Anyways how do we express love? Well (sadly to say) I have never been in a relationship, so it's hard to answer.. But still I think you express love by showing that you care what the other cares about, that you have compuncoolion for the other one. Mr. Collins obviously didn't do that, but talked about what a great guy he is and how he would benefit from marrying Lizzy. So no, it's not real love that Collins was showing.
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Post by Jonathan on May 22, 2016 19:24:05 GMT
Everyone expresses love in a different way as all of you guys mentioned. So some people may not think one is expressing love one someone actually is. I believe that Mr. Collins is not expressing love. He moves on the the next woman like they are nothing. If one really loves someone, he or she should do their best before they give up. Collins ends up marrying Elizabeth's best friend. The best friend could have been next on his list.
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