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Post by mohahaha on Nov 1, 2015 10:54:35 GMT
Since Halloween ended, and also in cluncool we began talking about witches. Although I don't know much about witches, but I do know that witchcraft punishment were executed, hanged, and burned in Early Modern Europe.
That's in the old days where people accuse people, mostly women, of witchcraft and put into trial, and some might be even found to be innocent and therefore they were punished due to false accusation. But now adays I don't think that witches exist now, since I think that magic is more old, and a huge number of the population is moving into science and technology of discoveries rather than fantasy and insane crimes, and actions occurring.
Do you think witches are out there today in our modern world ? Why or why not ?
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Post by riyadh on Nov 1, 2015 11:03:06 GMT
those days we have few witches because people thinking and style changed to the better 2nd thing the time now is different from before. the idea of it still here but no care about it that much in our time because they get better jobs, better life, better thinking, and better education. so yah that what see from my eyes
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Post by toomuchchanmin on Nov 1, 2015 11:20:56 GMT
There is the Korean internet term called "Witch Hunt", where many people to begin to criticized and insulted whether the person receiving it deserves or not. A good example is an incident called "Soup Lady"(국물녀) back in 2012. Apparently some mother posted on the web that some woman had spilled hot soup all over her son in the cafeteria and ran off, leaving her son with a severe burn. For some reason this became a big issue, and the woman was hunted down on the web, just like old witch hunts. However CCTV later showed that the son had actually ran into the woman and the woman had suffered some burn on her hand too. So yeah, the woman didn't do anything wrong, but she became a "witch". Here is the clip of the actual thing: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uHkZAg20ds |
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Post by timmy on Nov 1, 2015 11:57:42 GMT
I personally do believe in magic. I believe that there is something out there that we don't know of.
Of course, I do not have any evidence to back up my claim, but neither does the other side. It is up to oneself to decide on what to believe.
If witches do exist, we are not very good at identifying one. Think about it. If they were witches, why would they get caught? Would the Salem "witches" have not escaped their doom if they could do magic? In those cases, witches were transformation of fear- people do all kinds of crazy things when they are afraid.
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Post by christopher on Nov 1, 2015 12:15:04 GMT
I don't think there are witches in today's society. In terms of witchcraft, there are no such thing. Magic is just people's imagination. When the two girls showed mysterious symptoms, there was no way to identify what was wrong with them with the technology at that time. People's fear of this mysterious symptoms then turned to witchcraft as the cause of the mysterious symptoms. I agree with Tim. If there were witches in Salem, they could've just used magic to escape. Likewise, there are no witches in today's society. If there were witches, then why were there no saying that there was a witch caught in some house? One cannot hide their identity forever and so far there are no news related to witches.
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Post by erickim on Nov 1, 2015 12:36:20 GMT
I too don't believe in magic but I don't think any of us can state that there are no magics or witchcrafts in this world at all. It's not like we traveled every single part of earth right? So how does someone know if magic/witchcraft exists or not? As Timmy(jae?) said, there are no evidence to prove magic exists but there are also no proofs to say magics doesn't exist too. But the thing is, there was not a single person that was able to perform magics in front of everyone's eyes. Yes, there are some tricks but those are not magics like witchcrafts.
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Post by jungseunghoon16 on Nov 1, 2015 12:55:36 GMT
The development of technology and social media is the new witch hunt in the society today. We see it everyday in our lives because we see facebook posts that criticise various things.
Social media has become a main source of communication of current events. It is usually faster than the news, whereas news are a bit slower than social media in bringing out the news about something.
I think it is due to the number and popularity of using social media engines such as Facebook and the fact that people are on these social media sites everyday and 24/7, the speed of people catching up on news is unbelievably fast.
There is a korean internet term called "Witch Hunt" as Chan mentioned earlier. We find people that has done something terrible and are criticised by people that they don't even know on Facebook, Twitter, or on different social media. There are people that are found through these sites and are confronted with. I think this is the new "Witch Hunt" in not just Korea but all over the world.
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Post by Jessica (Yeeun) Kim on Nov 1, 2015 13:38:44 GMT
I believe there are no witches in our modern world and also in early Modern europe. Magic is just from our imagination and it is not a real. In my opinion, witchcraft happened because at that time people needed someone to blame. They suffered from extreme poverty, disease, and gap between rich and poor. For this reason, many people, mostly women were suspected witches and they were executed and burned to the death.
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Post by mayurika98 on Nov 1, 2015 13:41:24 GMT
People are always looking for something new wither to muse about or something to complain about. When people make rumors about celebrities and try to get them out of media's face, it is like an analogy to the witch hunts. Looking people who are different and may propose a threat to society are tended to be pushed out of society.
I don't know if there are actual witches that can cast magical spells but that would be really interesting. If there ever was one, I think there wouldn't be the same commotion we see in old England. Rather people would try to explore the area more to try and find ways to make human life easier. It seems like that is all everyone is trying to do these days.
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Post by Emily on Nov 1, 2015 14:15:19 GMT
While there may not be actual witches in modern society, there certainly are scapegoats who are blamed when something goes amiss. Whether the situation is within a family, friends, or even society at large, when an unfortunate event happens there is always someone being blamed for the act, just like witches were accused of witchcraft hundreds of years ago.
There may not ever have been witches in our world, as back then there were many occurrences which can be explained now by science, but could not have been many years ago when science was not fully developed. Therefore, events which are natural now were very confusing and scary for the people, so they made up the idea of a witch and blamed all the events on them.
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Post by sunnyp on Nov 1, 2015 14:55:14 GMT
I do not think witches exist in this society but figures like witches do. Witches in those days were people who were hated on. Figures like that definitely exist today. For example, celebrities like Kim K or Justin Bieber are hated by the majority of the society. There are reasons why they're being hated on such as being so dumb but I feel like they are sometimes being Accused just because.
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Post by andrewcho77 on Nov 6, 2015 13:13:43 GMT
Witches do not exist in this society. Long time ago, they had witches because it is the best way to kill a person if you hate them. It is also the best way to get divorce. Some people were sick and tired of their wife and some husband just accused her as a witch because she was not obeying him. I feel like this witch stuff is really stupid because why would someone do that. Maybe after 100 years, the people will laugh us by using smart phones everyday. hahaha.
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Post by anniee on Nov 7, 2015 9:42:30 GMT
As a skeptic in most things superstitious, I do not believe witches exist in the modern day, or actually in any previous era. The only reason that people back in the Puritan communities and medieval era believed that someone was a witch was because they didn't have the knowledge of science that we do today. People back then thought that those with mental disorders and previously undiscovered diseases were witches, an example being in the sheet that we read in cluncool in which one woman was thought to be a victim of witchcraft due to inability to move while awake (which was actually sleep paralysis). However, we now know that those accused who portrayed physical systems or odd personalities were merely victims of their illnesses, and the accusers were just afraid of what they didn't know. Back then, when they experienced something they didn't know, they chose to label that person as a witch, but in the present, when we experience something we don't know, we choose to look into it from a scientific and logical point of view.
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Post by lucia on Nov 7, 2015 9:42:40 GMT
Although I do not think witches exist today, there certainly are groups of minorities who are wrongly blamed for various problems in modern society. As Emily pointed out, there is always someone who has to bear the responsibility when something goes wrong. While the issue may seem less extreme than how it was with witches, it definitely is as serious as before because it addresses one of the major problems in society today such as minority discrimination.
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Post by Jooyoung on Nov 7, 2015 11:31:49 GMT
I am in complete agreement with Emily. The whole sensation about witches is not be taken seriously anymore and there are not many witches in our society (some people are into witchcraft and occults). However, people continue to make "societal witch". Just as in Salem, people today blame others when something goes wrong and create scapegoats. If witches are scapegoats in Salem, minorities are scapegoats in modern society. In Korea, for example, some old Korean adults disdain foreigners because they believe the foreigners are thieves who steal away job opportunities in Korea. In reality, they are just casting their unresolved distress about Korea's low job opportunity on to foreigners.
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