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Post by mohahaha on Nov 22, 2015 9:21:38 GMT
Although there are a lot of evil acts, but personally I think manipulating others is one of the biggest acts of evil to do to a human, especially now with technology enhancing changing the perspective of the viewers in the news, but in reality it's absolutely a different perspective, seeking the attention of the world. No argument, media is manipulating by the news. By both adding facts and lies just to seek the attention of the public, controlling people to follow them and additionally planting fear of people of the reality, although it's true in reality, but not to a degree of which making the place seeming to impossible to be in. Not only news, but also other types of manipulation, which I'm pretty sure you made your research about ... Overall, manipulation is the worst thing you can do to a human, aside of killing, taking the ability to control people's lives violating the human rights... What do you guys think ?
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Post by erickim on Nov 22, 2015 9:38:31 GMT
I don't think manipulation is considered one of the worst humans can possibly do. I say that manipulation is just one of the consequences of human nature. Humans are all born with human nature and that is why we do evil acts such as manipulation. People seek benefits for their own good and manipulation is one of the skills people use to do so. Is this something that should be considered as evil act? I think it's just the consequence of human nature. However, people are aware when they are manipulating others so I'm not saying that we can be excused of manipulation just because we're humans.
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Post by heesu on Nov 22, 2015 10:21:48 GMT
I think it depends on the situation. Some people use manipulation to benefit themselves from other, but some people ise manipulation to save other from bad things. For example, parents are using lie manipulation to make us study. They told us to study by tell only good benefit of knowledge. As we have knowledge,we can see knowledge could be dangerous someway. In the other hand, people use manipulation to other to have own benefit like get money and make the surffer. Thisdays, many people surffer from manipulation. In this bad issues from manipulation, we think manipulation as bad, but I think it depends on the situation.
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Post by mayurika98 on Nov 22, 2015 12:01:45 GMT
Manipulation is a interesting concept to talk about because we can get people to change their comfortable nature and possibly get them to do whatever we want them to do. The thought of having control over one person or a group of people is overwhelming because we won't know what to do with our authority. However, control doesn't always come from manipulation. For example, parents had control over us when we were children because they rewarded and punished us for our acts. Now we don't necessarily need those rewards and punishments because we have already gained a sense of respect for them and know to obey them. I don't think manipulation is such a big crime because people do it all the time not only to benefit themselves but also to benefit another person's life. If we have the proper control over our own brains then we wouldn't be so vulnerable to manipulation.
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Post by Jessica (Yeeun) Kim on Nov 22, 2015 12:39:24 GMT
Manipulation is the most basic tool to protect us in survival. It is an undeniable fact that we are always manipulating to others and manipulating by others. In the world, there are still many manipulators who not only violate human rights but also threaten the world peace. According to Psych Central, psychological manipulation is a type of social influence that aims to change the perception or behavior of others through underhanded, deceptive, or abusive tactics. Unfortunately, in today’s society, we either manipulate others or get manipulated by others.
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Post by toufiq on Nov 22, 2015 14:52:48 GMT
Not always. Manipulation is an tool that we are using for our survival for million years. It gives us an edge from others in order to compete. In that case the other party can take it as an evil thing. But we can see manipulation even in our close relationship. Parents manipulate kids to stay away from evil. Lovers manipulate each other to stay together for a long time. Friends manipulate each other to keep the friendship going, So it's not always that bad.
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Post by anniee on Nov 27, 2015 10:27:46 GMT
During cluncool, Mr. Edwards brought up the question: isn't school manipulating you by providing so many different cluncooles? As others have mentioned, manipulation doesn't always have to be used for evil.
In my group's presentation about manipulation, one of the categories of manipulation that we discussed was expanding intellectual manipulation. This type of manipulation can often be used for noble purposes, for by opening a variety of options through education, people can learn to make more educated and smarter decisions. Many people in third-world countries don't have access to the advanced technology that some of us have, so they end up believing whatever authoritative figures say - even if it's priests saying that their own child is possessed by witches.
School is manipulating you, but it isn't a bad form of manipulation. Sure, sometimes we can be overwhelmed by the wide option of majors and careers that we can choose to set our path toward, but this wide variety allows us to follow the path we truly want to take, not some job that we choose because that's our parents did. School opens up doors and roads to help us find our true future calling.
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Post by Emily on Nov 28, 2015 6:54:44 GMT
If human nature is a tree, then I think that manipulation is a branch, rather than a root. When most people manipulate, there is usually a motive behind manipulation, whether that movie is greed, jealously, or pure evil. Therefore, manipulation would not be a root, because something has to happen in order to make the person start manipulating. Even though manipulation may not be a root, it definitely is a bad trait to have, as it involves using innocent people.
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Post by Tharu on Nov 28, 2015 10:35:14 GMT
I agree with heesue, because manipulation can be used in both in the good way and also in the bad way. When it comes to education, teachers, parents manipulate us to study which is for the sake of us, it is not something bad. But when it comes to manipulation in bad ways such as the rock that ms. boyd bought. It could count as a bad way, because they manipulate us to spend our money on useless stuff, but it is good for them. So you can't really say that manipulation is a bad thing, it could be either way.
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Post by lucia on Nov 28, 2015 17:53:01 GMT
Manipulation is wrong, but it's hard to imagine a world withuot it. I agree with you guys that manipulation may not be always evil and it's the intention behind it that makes it positive or negative. People need to ask themselves the intent behind their desire to persuade that person and the benefit or impact on that person. At its worst, manipulation is simply a way to fool or control the person into doing something or believing something.
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Post by sangjoon on Nov 29, 2015 4:33:32 GMT
In my personal opinion, not all manipulations are bad. It is true that most of manipulations happen for negative purpose but, it is also true that some kind of manipulations are helpful in our living. And education is great example for the good manipulation. By studing hard because of out parent's or school's push, we can gain lots of useful knowledges and social living skills. I am pretty sure not all of us might study those alnoe without pushing so, some kind of manipulation is helpful, and it's also far from the roots of evil.
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Post by Jooyoung on Nov 29, 2015 10:06:19 GMT
I would disagree. Manipulation is not negative all the time. Sometimes it can also be positive. For example, moral education is a form of manipulation in which the purpose is to guide someone to behave in morally acceptable way. As many of you guys mentioned already, it is not the tool but the user. Manipulation is a tool that we use in society, depending on how we use it, it may be destructive or helpful.
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Post by sunnyp on Nov 29, 2015 14:58:55 GMT
I also think that manipulation can be used for good sometimes. There are more horrible things humans can do and although manipulation can be a tool for a horrible act, it can also be a tool of survival. So I disagree with you on whether manipulation is the root of all evil. Manipulation is uncool, but it's not the worst humans can do.
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Post by juliaj on Dec 4, 2015 4:48:02 GMT
I think manipulation is wrong but it's not the worse thing. Unless it's drawn over a long period of time and continuous leeching off of another person's life, there are much more damaging things. However, because most manipulations are more small scale or a one time thing, the consequences aren't as long lasting or damaging.
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Post by melody on Dec 6, 2015 4:01:07 GMT
I agree with Julia that manipulation is wrong but it's not the worse thing. Manipulation is bad due to it's untruthful, persuasive manners. When people get manipulated it can cause many dangerous things. Evil is always sweet and easily persuaded to be followed. When manipulation is added to the evilness, it's hard for the people to let it go. However, sometimes manipulation acts as a good factor in order to persuade people from getting rid of the evil things as well. In this case, I agree with Heesu goods and bads of manipulating depends on the situation. But I still believe that people should always know the truth. However, there are some people who believe that there should be some good lies that can protect our feelings. However, I still believe manipulation is not right. It's because we cannot predict the consequences of manipulation.
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