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Post by maysamyounis on Feb 6, 2016 11:42:47 GMT
I do believe that any sort of literature has its purpose or meaning other than merely telling it.
This surely applies to Shakespeare and his tragedy, Hamlet.
Personally, I felt Shakespeare earnestly telling us "Do not invest too much on a revenge, as there is nothing to gain."
What do you guys think? Is revenge good thing?
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Post by jonah21 on Feb 7, 2016 3:28:42 GMT
Revenge is always that go-to method. I agree that there isn't really anything you can gain from revenge but I think that people seek revenge because people just want satisfaction. To see your enemies suffer, that's like karma for what they done to you. Also, every literature does in fact have some purpose. It may not be directly said / mentioned, but thinking critically about it would show the answer.
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Post by sangjoon on Feb 7, 2016 13:32:35 GMT
In my personal opinion, revenge is not a good thing and i don't think author want us to learn about revenge through his book. The reason why I don't think revenge is good is that revenge always makes another revenge. In other words, it is never ending pattern and someone will get hurt again.
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Post by Jonathan on Feb 7, 2016 13:33:34 GMT
I think Shakespeare wrote this story to ask society the question of whether murder is justified by revenge. Hamlet is trying to kill Claudius because Claudius killed his father. Now, the problem with this is, who is the real bad guy here? Will it be Claudius because he killed Hamlet's father? You need to realize he takes care of the country and also repents. Is Hamlet the bad guy or is his actions are justified? I think this might be answered later at the end of the story.
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Post by andrewcho77 on Feb 7, 2016 14:25:27 GMT
People to revenge because they need to put their anger into someone. However, revenge is not a good thing because karma might come back to you. People after taking their revenge only get a little bit of satisfaction. Revenge can be positive and negative but there are a lot of negative sides about revenge. When Hamlet tries to take revenge he also dies in the story which means karma came back to him. So in the end, there is nothing to gain but bad karma.
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Post by kevv on Feb 7, 2016 14:41:11 GMT
I personally think that revenge is something that must be in this world because its just human nature. Revenge is just something that must be in our lives to feel satisfaction. Not only in the time period of Shakespeare but these days, people make jokes and the ones recieving those jokes come up with a comeback within just a few seconds to not feel down and get revenge on that person. Anyways I think that revenge is a good thing and i don't think that people having revenge on others will ever vanish.
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Post by lucia on Feb 7, 2016 16:27:24 GMT
I think the "main message" is more than just revenge; there are just so many key themes in Hamlet. As I read the story, one thing that constantly bothers me is Hamlet's indecisiveness and inaction. Revenge does make Hamlet go crazy but I think it is his indecisveness to take action that killed many and lead to personal tragedy. He suffered most when he was contemplating his father's death, suicide, and killing Claudius. All of these things made his life even more miserable.
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Post by Jooyoung on Feb 13, 2016 3:28:36 GMT
Confucius said, "Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves". One grave is for the person who your revenge is directed toward and the other if for yourself. Therefore, there is nothing to be gained from revenge but only bloody ends. I completely agree with Confucius and many of you that revenge is not worth it.
In my opinion Author's purpose of Hamlet was to portray the complexity of human. Some act with their head, while other act with their heart. Some would immediately take action, while some would not. Why they make such decisions is uncertain because human psych is not black and white. All of these is portrayed in Hamlet.
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Post by Emily on Feb 13, 2016 10:11:56 GMT
When committing an act based on revenge, the one who does so always believes he is justified to do so, because something bad has already happened to him so it is okay. But Gandhi once said, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". When someone commits a crime or murder and someone else who was close to the person who was hurt decides to revenge on the criminal, it only ends up as multiple people getting hurt with the only reward being satisfaction of revenge. But is satisfaction justified through more crimes or murders? I don't think so.
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Post by jin794 on Feb 14, 2016 8:30:48 GMT
I think the author's purpose is to demonstrate the irony of human beings as well as the lies and corruption in the world. Everyone in Elsinore points to Hamlet as the crazy one, but in reality, Hamlet is the only one sane in this play. Shakespeare wants to show how selfish and disloyal a man can be by quickly betraying and switching loyalties for their own personal interests. He also shows the effects of when a person loses trust in people and society. Through Hamlet’s deep and emotional monologues, Shakespeare intentionally makes readers feel more connected to Hamlet as they can can relate to logic, his situation, as well as his cause.
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Post by anniee on Feb 14, 2016 12:15:03 GMT
Morally, revenge isn't a 'good thing': we are constantly told through life lessons and Christianity about the power of forgiveness and how it's better to pardon one's faults, even if it means giving up revenge in order to do so. However, I can admit that revenge is often tempting, for it means justice against someone who might have made me experience tough times. In periods of outrage, I want the person who made me suffer to go through the same feelings of anger, betrayal, disappointment, etc., that they made me deal with. Getting back at that person seems like the only way to receive satisfaction for what they did to me. In these situations, though it may be extremely difficult - and I'm probably a hypocrite for saying this - we should be the bigger people and learn to forgive. It shows that we can overcome our emotions and impulses and stop the cycle of hate.
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Post by Jessica (Yeeun) Kim on Feb 14, 2016 12:31:02 GMT
I certainly agree that William Shakespeare wanted to tell us a lesson about revenge according to the main characters in the story. I believe revenge is a way to console oneself by showing their anger and sorrow to others. I believe that no one can truly judge that revenge is good or bad because no one can hundred percent understand their pain.
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Post by riyadh on Feb 14, 2016 13:18:25 GMT
the Author propose literature in each story is to tell us and part of culture or literature so he wrote it down so can everyone to read it and keep it so it can never be gone . the Author propose can maybe an warning . it might be an history thiny that is important ...
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Post by Jessica (Yeeun) Kim on Feb 21, 2016 14:43:36 GMT
In the story “Hamlet” written by Shakespeare definitely contains more than one meaning. I believe there is no right or wrong answer to this question. In my opinion, Shakespeare might want to say “there is no winner and loser for a revenge”. I am still not sure that revenge is a bad or good thing. However, people should never across the appropriate border.
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Post by heesu on Mar 12, 2016 17:08:15 GMT
I feel like the word 'revenge' is negative because when there are revenges, there was a tragedy. The revenge is like you cause negative affects to other I think. I think the author's purpose is nothing to do with the revenge because I think he just like to write the tragedy stories or it shows negative soviety at that time.
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