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Post by Jooyoung on Feb 28, 2016 1:50:12 GMT
As I was reading, I realized Hamlet has changed since the beginning. For example, his reason not to commit suicide changed. At first, what stopped Hamlet from committing suicide was Christian doctrine - it is a sin to suicide. However, in his famous To be or Not to Be soliloquy he says that the reason why he cannot commit suicide is due to fear of unknown that comes after death. What other changes in Hamlet or other characters did you guys notice?
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Post by Tharu on Feb 28, 2016 12:33:46 GMT
Also i found the love Hamlet has for Ophelia has some ups and downs. Right after Hamlet became insane, he acted that he hates Ophelia and literary messed with her. But then at the end, at Ophelia's funeral Hamlet's true love kind of popped up. He was in such a surprise when he realized the grave was Ophelia, and he was pretty sad and confessed his love for Ophelia. So this is also something that changed through the story.
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Post by ETypeRegymon on Feb 28, 2016 12:50:33 GMT
The story itself implies a change in Hamlet before the play begins. In the beginning, Hamlet's father has already been dead for 2 months. In other words, we don't know how Hamlet acts normally, when not mourning or feeling betrayed. Though the fact that he was popular for commoners implies that he's at least a bit better than how he acts throughout the story.
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Post by riyadh on Feb 28, 2016 13:05:30 GMT
he did change after his dad death and the people made him to change too, because he do not know who to trust ..
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Post by Jessica (Yeeun) Kim on Feb 28, 2016 13:15:36 GMT
I agree to Jooyoung’s idea that Hamlet has changed since the beginning. I believe Hamlet is addicted to “Revenge”, therefore, he could not control his anger and madness as he did before. For example, in the story, Hamlet murdered Polonius. For me, this scene is very important because Hamlet became a murderer as Claudius who killed King Hamlet. Because of this scene, Hamlet becomes as equal as Claudius who he hates. And Hamlet even feels any guilty about Polonius’s death which also reminds Claudius who only cares about his crown and his wife.
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Post by heesu on Feb 28, 2016 13:26:15 GMT
I agree with you that he changes through the story. I felt like his mood is changing when there is someone or not. When he is with someone, he acting weird and talks hard for other to understand. In the other hand, when there is no one, he talks normally and shows deep depressions. I realized this when I finished reading it.
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Post by juliaj on Feb 28, 2016 13:35:16 GMT
I agree that Hamlet changes throughout the play. His fear of death shows that he is also becoming more mad because he's thinking of so much stuff that his fear of death is starting feel real in his existentialism. In the beginning, though he is essentially the same character, he is less volatile and clearly less crazy.
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Post by sangjoon on Mar 6, 2016 3:01:20 GMT
The love line change between ophelia and hamlet was pretty interesting for me. As you can see in the story, Hamlet pretend that he hates and loathe the ophelia with psycho acting. However since the times pasts in the story, Hamlet is showing the real true love toward the ophelia. I did not actually expect that they fall in love together. This love line change was pretty interesting for me.
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Post by andrewcho77 on Mar 6, 2016 6:20:21 GMT
Yeah, he was changing his emotion a lot because he was going through a lot of things in this story. I noticed his mood changes when he treats ophelia. Hamlet loved ophelia but his emotion becomes angry. So I notice that hamlet keeps on changing with his emotion and thoughts. I think that we can relate to another because people change over time. If you see yourself in the future you would probably be different from now.
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Post by jin794 on Mar 6, 2016 9:23:21 GMT
One major change in this story was Hamlet's reason to commit suicide. As Joo Young mentioned, what stopped Hamlet from committing suicide was Christian principle: sin. Later in his soliloquy, he reveals his true reason for not committing suicide. It was because of fear of unknown. Moreover, Hamlet's love toward Ophelia has changed.
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Post by maysamyounis on Mar 11, 2016 11:24:53 GMT
I agree with that hamlet do not suicide himself. Because he believes in Christian which is suicide self or spirit we will go to hell. Same thing happens to Oplias's she was pure and innocent but then still there is believes that oplias's will go to hell because she is suicided herself. because in many religion the suicide self it is taboo. AND Hamlet also fear from death because he do not know what is after death. Heaven or Hell.
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Post by melody on Mar 13, 2016 4:10:56 GMT
Hamlet showed a diverse personality from the beginning to the end. His actions and his thoughts were dynamic. As Ophelia died, he had figured that he was in true love with her. He had a deeper understanding of his thoughts and he became aware of what he had really felt of her. Also, he firstly stopped himself from committing suicide worrying about committing a sin (which kills himself) but then, when he felt everything was useless, he dared to commit a sin which was killing himself. It was a big sin at back then because all the historical backgrounds were based on Christianity. In somewhat way he's thought was more mature and in somewhat way, he's thoughts were so immature and wrong deciding to kill himself.
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Post by anniee on Mar 13, 2016 10:10:21 GMT
I disagree that Hamlet changed much since the beginning. Hamlet was hesitant to take action continuously throughout the play. Even at the end, when Hamlet finally kills Claudius, it is hard to say it was Hamlet who made the decision. He was forced to kill Claudius because he will never have the chance after he dies. Only thing about Hamlet that really changed was his madness. In the beginning, he was acting mad. However, overtime, Hamlet actually became mad.
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Post by lucia on Mar 13, 2016 13:53:42 GMT
I also don't think that Hamlet changed much by the end of the play. He has been emotionally unstable from the beginning of the story and continued to avoid responsibility for his actions. He accidentally kills Polonius and treats people around him badly. But I feel like he turned sadistic from being just isolated and cold.
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Post by erickim on Mar 13, 2016 14:00:27 GMT
Hamlet changed a lot since the beginning of the play. I think he already started to change when his father died because when he first saw the ghost he started to imagine weird things. He also kills Polonius etc.. maybe father's death was Hamlet's start of insanity.
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