|
Post by mohahaha on Feb 28, 2016 13:02:27 GMT
We all know by now that Hamlet is a Tragic Hero, and at the end of the story he dies by poison. But what influenced his death ? Was it Hamlet's depression hating life ? His father's ambition to get revenge on Claudius ? or Hamlet's mother marrying with Claudius ?
Either way, he wanted to die ever since his father's death, and his "wish" comes true. Additionally that he went to extremes with insanity leading him to Claudius's revenge, but his death was unexpected.
What do you think ?
|
|
riyadh
Junior Member
Posts: 59
|
Post by riyadh on Feb 28, 2016 13:08:30 GMT
he did because he did not do the things that he wanted to do ,, like to kill his uncle or trust the right people, he did cause his own death in somehow in the end and in different ways too..
|
|
|
Post by jin794 on Feb 28, 2016 14:12:28 GMT
I believe Hamlet Hamlet's extreme insanity led to Hamlet's death. When Hamlet was extreme mad, he killed Polonius by accident. Polonius's death caused Ophelia's madness. Due to her madness, Ophelia was drowned in the river. When Laertes heard about his father and sister's death, he decided to seek for revenge and planned Hamlet's death with Claudius. This plan led to tragic event because everyone eventually died in the play.
|
|
|
Post by toomuchchanmin on Feb 28, 2016 15:34:17 GMT
He wasn't a "hero" really. He was just tragic. Anyways, I think Hamlet brought this to himself, with the help of the supposed father's ghost. After all, Hamlet wasn't sure if his uncle had killed his father or not. He was just mad at his mother for marrying his uncle at the start of the story. Then the father's ghost's claim that he was murdered by his brother, and Hamlet's motivations sets the plot of the story, resulting at first of Polonius's death, which made Laeretes want to kill Hamlet, which actually did happen.
|
|
|
Post by Jonathan on Feb 28, 2016 15:36:16 GMT
I do not believe that Hamlet is really a "hero". There is no justification is his actions and his craziness just went to far. This shows how scary and powerful the word revenge is. Revenge started everything what Hamlet had done in this story. Even though killing Polonius was an accident, who stabs a "huge"rat behind a curtain without checking? This just shows how insane he was from the moment of the "Dumb Play". Hamlet's madness lead to the death of everyone in this story.
|
|
|
Post by lucia on Feb 28, 2016 15:57:58 GMT
I think that Hamlet's inability to act was his tragic flaw and eventually led to his death. Some may think that Gertrude is the cause of the story's tragedy but I think it was Hamlet's stubornness and decision making under uncertainty that caused him to go mad. He caused so many deaths by letting his emotions control him.
|
|
|
Post by graceyichen on Mar 5, 2016 5:04:11 GMT
I think when we are desperate for something, we're actually afraid. In the beginning, we're afraid because we don't know what to do in order to reach our aim. But as we get closer and closer to our goal, we are afraid because we start to lose our purpose of existing. When we lose a purpose in life, we attach ourselves to the most important thing in our lives at the moment. And that's why, as an excuse, in a lot of extreme situations, for example in a war, in a plan to murder somebody...although it seems inevitable that we die in the midst of the fighting, subconsciously we let our death happen. Because what would we do if we lived? Life would feel so empty. I think that explains Hamlet's death (it was not unexpected for me). I believe right from the start when Hamlet made up his mind on killing Claudius, he stopped caring about his life. The drama that followed, Gertrude, Ophelia, accidentally murdering Polonius, killing his two friends...those were just distractions to make him even more eager to kill Claudius, which in turn resulted in his own death.
|
|
|
Post by jungseunghoon16 on Mar 5, 2016 8:40:58 GMT
When a person is desperate for something, they tend to ignore their environment, their thoughts, and others. We are like that too. If we have a desperate goal to reach, we tend to look at that goal and only that goal. We don't look behind us until we reach that goal or fail to achieve the goal that you so desperately had. I think Hamlet was like that too and caused his own death because of his own desperate thoughts and thoughtless desperate actions. There are other tragic heroes in other epics like Beowulf, as his actions and ambition led to his own death. I think Hamlet carried out his thoughts to action without thinking clearly. He did think everything thoroughly but it was when he was insane or when he acted to be insane. People are like that, we don't think everything through when we are desperate. We can wait and we can also act quickly because we are desperate of something.
|
|
|
Post by juliaj on Mar 5, 2016 8:44:09 GMT
I think Hamlet did partly cause his own death. I think that no issue is ever completely made by one person, but some people might have more blame than others. Hamlet was the one who stirred things up by trying to kill Claudius first, but Claudius was the one who started everything by killing King Hamlet and marrying Gertrude and then plotting to kill Hamlet. Laertes is partly at blame because he was so full of the desire for revenge that he agreed to try to kill Hamlet even though he knew it was treasonous. Their madness, all of the characters' madness, killed innocent people as well as themselves in the end.
|
|
|
Post by Tharu on Mar 13, 2016 13:10:18 GMT
I feel like, if Hamlet never met his dead father's ghost none of these events would occur. King Hamlet's selfish revenge is the thing that led hamlet towards his own death. And also in a way i think Hamlet is brainwashed by the conversation he had with his father, and throughout the story his ultimate goal was just to kill Claudius and nothing else.
|
|
|
Post by andrewcho77 on Mar 13, 2016 13:17:16 GMT
Hamlet caused his own death because he was really crazy when he was trying to take revenge for his father. He was seeing ghost when Hamlet's mom wasn't seeing the ghost. Hamlet was too focused on killing claudius and wasn't focusing on himself. Hamlet killed Polonius which made everything worse. I think rather than taking his father's revenge he got his own death.
|
|
|
Post by sangjoon on Mar 20, 2016 2:51:54 GMT
It is pretty hard to say that Hamlet deserved his own death. The reason why I think this way is that the ghost of his father lead him to make a decision which will ruin his life. In other words, something lead Hamlet to deserve the death whether that something is his father or not. If there weren't any ghost and no one encourage Hamlet to do revenge, I don't think Hamlet had to face the death and all the tragedies. Thus, I don't think that Hamlet cause his own death.
|
|
|
Post by heesu on Mar 20, 2016 11:32:06 GMT
I think Hamlet caused his own death because he brought corruption to Denmark. He was insane and full of madness. When there is madness in the play, there is always tragedy. I think Hamlet still wanted to revenge even though he dies. From his full of madness, he didn't think about the consequence that follows him. He just go for his goal of revenge toward Claudius and Gertrude. In the play, Hamlet only thinks about what revenge, not the consequence that follows him. Therefore, I think he caused his own death.
|
|
|
Post by timmy on Mar 20, 2016 12:02:38 GMT
Hamlet is not a hero, first of all. However, he did bring his own death in certain aspects. Even so, he is honored- because after death, all things are over, even his crimes.
|
|
|
Post by erickim on Mar 20, 2016 12:36:31 GMT
He pretty much caused his own death since he was the one who decided to create a plan in order to take revenge for his father. Whether the ghost was real or not, he was talking with the ghost to kill Claudius so I say that it's his own fault that he died.
|
|